GT500KR: Can you afford to fix this car?

[Evil95GT]

Undercover:

Can you confirm whether or not the parts have to be returned prior to the shipment of the replacement parts? Thanks in advance.

[X_Ford_Employee]

I can assure everyone the pricing quoted seems to be very accurate. I just retired on September 1st but still have many connections, some in Ford Racing, Shelby, Ford, along with Ford Customer Service.

I read about this on another forum and thought it was quite the story.
I spent 10yrs + in customer service so understand what goes on.
My main connection is on vacation until september 14th. After that I will find out actual pricing unless a invoice is posted first.

[lowflyn]

There's plenty of KR's - NEW - for sale for WAY below MSRP now.

Anyone who pays that kind of price now isn't very smart.

I don't forsee the car selling for anywhere close to that. They were still asking 10k markup on all 08 GT500's on the lot. They are down to 2 09 GT500's at 2k markup and a 2010 GT500 at 10k markup.

[Boston Mike]

I'm just wondering at what point the owner of the car has a case against the insurance company for breach of contract. He has (I'm assuming) paid for the car to be currently covered by said insurance agency against any and all damage that might be done to the vehicle. Now they are taking an unacceptably long amount of time to fix the customer's vehicle. They need to fix the car and fight SAI on their own time.

I don't think any insurance company will fork the money over first and then fight to get it back. I am sure the policy gives them the right to do what they are doingright now. What this should bring to light is that other owners of kr's should talk to the insurance agents and find out how they can protect themselves from this happening to them (ie how to specify the specific parts and cost of replacement). This will lead to a higher premium and hopefully a more con certed effort to battle these costs.

[Jon_G]

wow those prices are crazy !! 18,000 for a hood and it isn't even painted ?? good luck bro !

[frydguy79]

the 600.00 cf splitters are not KR splitters, they are aftermarket ones

[michael morris]

The reason the dealer changed it is they took off the 4515.00 splitter and put one on from Michael Morris as he gets them discounted to around 600.00. LOFLOL
I have not seen an invoice from Michael Morris that they are only 600.00 so lets just go with actual pricing of 4515.00. He would not know a KR from a slant six camaro

I NEVER said that I could get a KR splitter for 600!!!! When I got my SS I took the CF splitter off and replaced it with the factory one because I knew the SS splitter was $700

Since I never said what you posted I cant prove any of it!!! If you would like to post my quote then Ill either say Im sorry and I was wrong.

Now about your STUPID comment about me knowing the difference between a KR and a slant 6. I have sold my share of NEW Shelbys including KRs. Never sold a JUNK slant 6 camaro, but Im pretty sure I can tell the difference.

Post where I said I could get a KR splitter for $600 or aplogize for such STUPID comment!!

MM

[Boston Mike]

Ban?


ROFLMAO

[Evil95GT]

Nobody is getting banned, LOL.



If things get out of hand, I'll delete the posts that violate the rules. Having said that, I don't see things going in that direction. I refuse to lock or delete this thread before the invoice and/or pics are posted.

I understand the concern, and I'm sure some tempers are flaring right now. If I learned of information of this nature regarding a car that I had sitting in my garage, you can bet I'd be sweating bullets right now.

Oh, as promised, here is a link to a sampling of my hate mail.

[BigMarqDaddy]

Watching the sword fight.

[Undercover_Brother]

Undercover:

Can you confirm whether or not the parts have to be returned prior to the shipment of the replacement parts? Thanks in advance.

I can confirm that the VIN and photos need to be provided in advance. The damaged parts must be returned and received before the order for replacement parts is filled.

And we're now a day closer to the posting of the evidence.

[JonW]

I bought my GT500 from Michael Morris. He was a stand-up guy in every respect, did everything he said he would do. I think that sometimes we think that just because someone is a member at that other site that they are a bad person. That is not true in Michael's case.

[Joe G]

Nobody is getting banned, LOL.

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[X_Ford_Employee]

Here is what I found:

Current Pricing

All List

Hood 20,400.00
1500.00 Shipping
Hood Stripes 575.00
Hood Grilles 661.25
Hood Locks 632.50

Labor to install Hood 1.7hrs
Labor to Paint Hood 5.7 (possible more for the carbon fiber)
Supplies Cost to paint 350.00

add this all up and a hood replacement cost is
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for a 26,260.12 Total to replace just the hood!!!!!!!!!!




I would venture for damage control SAI will announce cheaper pricing, but in fact things will get tougher and no pricing change. Its all part of the way Ford and others work.

I did find in this case pricing was different depending on who asked.

The price Ford Racing was giving was minus a 15% handling fee on each and every part. And that was price to dealer and not to consumer. Also add very high shipping to each item along with shipping to send your old parts back. A very long process indeed.

I heard thru the grapevine SAI and Ford Racing were going to make it up to this customer. If I hear that they have I will announce it. I am a bit skeptical though. Many times I would see they would tell customers what they wanted to hear, but never follow through making customer more upset. Then changing brands because they were fed up.

I did learn that this customer had purchased 4 GT500Kr's along with a 725 Super Snake. Not to mention in process to buy a new SHO Taurus.

[JonW]

It's no wonder the domestic manufacturers are in the shape they're in. I ordered a new Challenger the day the order banks opened, after waiting 2 years for that day. My car was scheduled to be built the first day of 6-speed production. I thought that was cool, a first day build, my name on the window sticker. One of the guys on a Challenger board even set up a tracking system so we could follow the progress of our cars. After seeing mine sit in a holding yard for 6 weeks, I finally asked my salesman to run a warranty check on the VIN. It went to someone in MI, probably a Chrysler employee. I was not going to get my car, someone else was.

I buy used cars now. The 2008 Shelby was probably my last new car. It seems like especially when it comes to performace cars, the OEMs just don't get it. We're their most enthusiastic group of customers, and we're the ones that get the short end of the stick.

[BackyardResto]

[QUOTE= osts 12 & 13

[Evil95GT]

Ok gentlemen........

For the cleanliness and effectiveness of this thread, I'm hoping the bickering is out of your systems. There's a ton of good info here, and we're on a roll. I understand this is a very heated topic, but let's continue to play nice, ok?

Thanks a bunch for the confirmation Ex-Ford. The *only* time I've ever heard about Ford redeeming themselves was actually my own personal experience. It took them almost 2 years, and it took a HELL of alot of wildfire posting on my part, but they actually did reimburse me for an absolute bullshit repair (the T5 was wiped) I had to pay for when they voided my warranty without just cause.

[Undercover_Brother]

I suppose it's time for me to clarify a few things (again).

Like Michelle, I've also been bombarded with private messages from new members, as well as email. While the correspondence isn't pleasant, I'm not taking any of it personally. In fact, I'm not replying on a one-by-one basis. I will simply make a blanket statement here, nice and bold, with high hopes that people will understand.

The prices I listed are CORRECT. In some cases, the prices are actually lower than some of the other quotes received. Like it or not, it is what it is.

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What part of "this isn't a GT500" don't you understand? You send me private messages calling me out, then you go on your little forums throwing your BS flag. Nobody cares if a standard GT500 hood replacement is $900. That's completely and totally irrelevant in this discussion. You'd have to be a Shelby and/or Mustang person to understand the various trim levels and what the differences are. I understand that not everyone is a die-hard, and I don't belittle those who aren't. However, read this very carefully, Cling to my every word:

1) The proof of this claim will be posted on this site within this thread THIS WEEK.

2) If you don't have a clue what you're talking about, do a little research before throwing your little BS flag at me.

For those of you who still don't understand:

Shelby GT500 replacement parts = $$

Shelby GT500KR replacement parts = $$$$$$$ + wrecked parts + shipping + handling + mark up + tax

Get it?

[michael morris]

Mr Morris, Here is a quote

QUOTE (silver08elly @ Sep 4 2009, 12:23 PM)
Isnt the same exact air splitter they show here the one we can get from SPP for like 649? Not 4G's and some change? I think this is a vandetta against ford and shelby.....

DING DING DING... We have a WINNER!!!!


Someone is trying to make SAI and Ford look bad!


MM






Here you say the splitter is 649.00 !

see this

http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/ind...topic=47832&hl=

posts 12 & 13

The ding ding is mine, but I was quoting someone else! You have combined 2 posts!!!

Please call me Michael or MM. Mr Morris is still working and I get confused easy!!!!

I stand behind what I said earlier. I never said I could buy a KR splitter for $700. I did agree that in SS in 700, but NEVER said I bought a KR splitter for any price!

I have been corrected by a KR owner that the splitter does cost 4500! This blows me away! I also said in the thread you linked to that if I find out that Im wrong I would say so. Well it look like Im WRONG!!! More than one person has come up with the 20K+ price on the hood!!

I admit when Im wrong, but again I never said I could buy or have bought a KR splitter for ANY price!

MM

[michael morris]

I bought my GT500 from Michael Morris. He was a stand-up guy in every respect, did everything he said he would do. I think that sometimes we think that just because someone is a member at that other site that they are a bad person. That is not true in Michael's case.

Thanks Jon!!

I hope the car business in better up there than here! Man its SLOW!!!!


MM